The recent discussions on the proposed version 3 of the GNU General PublicLicense have been well documented here and elsewhere. This proposal hasclearly exposed some differences of opinion within the developmentcommunity, with the anti-DRM provisions being at the core of the debate.The addition of these provisions has created a fair amount of ill willagainst the Free Software Foundation; opposition to them appears to havecreated similar feelings in the opposite direction.In theory, this disagreement should not come about. GPLv2 contains thefollowing language:9. The Free Software Foundation may publish revised and/or new versions of the General Public License from time to time. Such new versions will be similar in spirit to the present version, but may differ in detail to address new problems or concerns. If the FSF is adhering to its part of this bargain, then anybody who boughtinto the "spirit" of GPLv2 should not have trouble with this revision. So,clearly, those who oppose the GPLv3 draft - many of whom have released vastamounts of code under GPLv2 - believe that the revisions are not "similar inspirit." Some have gone as far as to accuse the FSF of using its powerover the GPL to push its founder's radical agenda onto the code of largenumbers of unwilling developers.That accusation is probably over the top. The FSF is, with GPLv3,attempting to respond to a number of problems as it sees them. Softwarepatents are a clear problem, and the GPLv3 draft tries to mitigate thatproblem somewhat. International applicability of the license has not yetproved to be a problem in practice, but it is clearly something thatreasonable lawyers can worry about. It seems worth fixing the languagebefore some court somewhere on the planet decides that the GPLv2incantations only work in the US. And so on.The FSF also, clearly, sees locked-down systems as a problem. It isinteresting that this has not always been the case; back in 2000, LWN took issue with an interview withRichard Stallman, where he said:I'm less concerned with what happens with embedded systems than Iam with real computers. The real reason for this is the moralissues about software freedom are much more significant forcomputers that users see as a computer. And so I'm not reallyconcerned with what's running inside my microwave oven.(This interview has disappeared off the original site, but theWayback Machine has it).Most TiVo owners probably see their gadget as being more like a microwaveoven than a computer. It is not that TiVo has come along since then (the2000 LWN article mentions it); what has changed is the FSF's - or, at least,Richard Stallman's - position on it.There are few people who disagree with the idea that locked-down systemscan be a problem. Beyond the fact that such devices will always deny usersthe full potential of the hardware, they can spy on us, deny fair userights under copyright law, lock us out of our own data, prevent us fromfixing serious problems, and so on. Locked-down systems are designed toimplement the goals of somebody other than the ultimate owner of thedevice. Such systems are undesirable at best, and outright evil at theirworst.The disagreement is over how this problem should be addressed. The twosides, insofar as there are two clear sides, would appear to be these: The anti-DRM provisions are a licensing-based response to a legal and market problem. They prohibit legitimate uses of the technology (examples could be ensuring that certified software runs on voting machines or systems - like X-ray machines - which could hurt people if the wrong software is run) while failing to solve the real problem. These provisions are trivially circumvented by putting the software in ROM, do nothing about the DRM being incorporated into all aspects of computing systems, and would primarily result in Linux being replaced with proprietary software in the embedded market. These provisions are a new restriction on how the software can be used, and, thus, are not "similar in spirit" to GPLv2. The new provisions are needed to preserve the user's freedom to modify, rebuild, and replace the original software on devices that this user owns. Failure to provide encryption keys when the hardware requires them is a fundamental failure to live up to the moral requirements of using free software and, according to some, is already a violation of GPLv2. DRM is an evil which threatens to take away many of the freedoms we have worked so hard to assure for ourselves; it must be fought whenever possible and it certainly should not be supported by free software. The anti-DRM provisions simply reaffirm the freedoms we had thought the GPL already guaranteed to us, and, thus, they are very much "similar in spirit" to GPLv2.This logjam looks hard to break. Your editor, in his infinite humility,would like to offer a couple of suggestions, however: Reasonable people who believe in free software, and who have put much of their lives into the creation of that software, can support either of the two viewpoints above (or other viewpoints entirely). They are not (necessarily) free software fundamentalist radicals, corporate stooges, people on power trips, or any of those other mean and nasty things they have been called in recent times. We can discuss this issue without doubting each others' motives and without the need for personal attacks. The FSF clearly has some strong feelings about what it wants to achieve with this license revision, and there are issues it does not want to back down on. There have also been signs, however, that the FSF is listening more than it has in the creation of any other license. This process is not done yet, there is no GPLv3 at this time. Continued, polite participation in the process would seem to be called for.Finally, while your editor is standing on this nice soapbox... Theanti-DRM language was very appealing when it first came out. Your editordoes not much appreciate the idea of some vendor locking up his softwareand selling it back to him in a non-modifiable and potentially hostileform. It is a violation of the social contract (if not the legal license)under which the software was contributed. But the attempt to address thisproblem in GPLv3 carries a high risk of splitting the development communitywhile doing very little to solve the real problem. Dropping that languagecould help to bring the community back together behind the new license,leaving us united to fight DRM (and numerous other attacks on our freedom)in more effective ways. The FSF may want to consider whether, in the longrun, its goals would be better served by a license which lacks thislanguage. Such a license might be closer to the spirit which brought thiscommunity together in the first place. (Log in to post comments) Similar in spirit? Posted Oct 5, 2006 0:55 UTC (Thu) by Sombrio (guest, #26942) [Link]
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For DRM you have to realise that ALMOST EVERY major hardware maker is pro-DRM. They see it as a way to attract content providers to the computer so that they can finally say that they have truly 'multimedia' PC.They want to make the PC the hub of the electronics in people's living rooms.. As the television, stereo system, games, dvr, etc etc. The whole nine yards.Sure today the 'Tivo' is used as a example. But now EVERY computer you buy is going to have trusted computer stuff on it. Now this have a viable security use, but in reality it's #1 purpose is DRM.The is the main reason why we now have extensions like VT and Pacifica to help with VM! Back when Microsoft was touting 'Paladium' the idea was that with Paladium you would have a sort of mini-system seperate from your host operating system. The VM would provide the division to protect the data stream from being tapped software-wise, and the trusted computing modules ensured that you were unable to tamper with the VM or the software in it.Now this stuff is in every PC your going to buy. It's a good thing for Linux (better VM, better security), but it's bad because of what it was and is going to be used for.Now the DRM provisions in GPLv3 is bothersome for embedded developers who want to make their devices 'user proof' to cater to major copyright controllers of media. (they can easily work around any free software restrictions by doing a palladium-vm of their own anyways for media playback.. which I expect a number of people are already looking into)HOWEVER the DRM issue is a problem for _all_of_us_. Not just users of embedded devices. Because the same restrictions (or better then) restrictions that are present in a TiVO is present in all PCs, in all servers. So don't think a second this is just about embedded devices or some anti-tivo rampage.The difference between 'GOOD' trusted computing (the kind that you can use to fight off rootkits) vs 'BAD' trusted computing (the kind that allows people like Sony to install rootkits which are illegal for you to remove) is weither or not you hold the keys to your own computer.If you hold the keys, then all this stuff is great. The DRM provisions are attempting to protect your right to have control over your own hardware. Weither it is in your DVR, your 'open source' router, your PC, your server, or whatever else. I don't think that you're correct Posted Oct 5, 2006 4:04 UTC (Thu) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330) [Link]
This is FUD, that has no basis in fact, nor does it have a basis in law.""What exactly do you think DRM does? Have you taken a look at the DMCA ever?from ""The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a United States copyright law which criminalizes production and dissemination of technology that can circumvent measures taken to protect copyright, not merely infringement of copyright itself, and heightens the penalties for copyright infringement on the Internet. Passed on May 14, 1998 by a unanimous vote in the United States Senate and signed into law by President Bill Clinton on October 28, 1998, the DMCA amended title 17 of the US Code to extend the reach of copyright, while limiting the liability of Online Providers from copyright infringement by their users.""All 100% fact.What this effectively makes it completely illegal to attempt to, or tell people about, or distribute programs or software, that circumvent any sort of digital copyright protection scemes IRREGARDLESS of the user's intention.So what DRM does is provide a way to control what software you are and are not allowed to run on your computer by wrapping it in the notion that these restrictions are intended to protect copyrighted material.For instance you have 'FairPlay' versions Windows Media Video 10. These are DRM encrusted media files we are told are intended to protect the copyrights of various artists who produce music.Now effectively due to the DMCA it is ILLEGAL to play these files on Linux. Because in order to do that you have to break the DRM encryption to do so and if your a 'pirate' you could use the same software that plays back music to copy music. Thusly enabling support of FairPlay in Linux with open source software is a U.S. Federal crime.Now this DOES NOTHING TO STOP PIRACY. People have found easy ways to work around DRM restrictions and provide content on the internet. Once one copy is out there then anybody can find it and download it. Effectively DRM delays music being 'stolen' by a matter of minutes.What it does accomplish though is it allows Microsoft to try to convince folks like the RIAA to sell music under their Fairplay DRM. Once people purchase the music then Microsoft, protected by the U.S. Federal Government, can now dictate to these people what software and operating systems they are allowed to use to to play back the music they purchased and what sort of other audio devices they are allowed to use.Apple does a similar thing with their DRM'd Itunes service. They restrict people from licensing their DRM technology for MP3 players and such and they don't let other people create software to play it. If somebody from another country with no DMCA-like restrictions creates a compatable player or software then Apple will change the format of the DRM to effectively break their software or hardware. It does not have anything to do with protecting from piracy because Apple themselves allow end users to burn cdrom copies of music with no loss of fidality. The time it takes for a new song on Itunes to appear on the internet in a P2p site is measured in _minutes_.So this does NOTHING to stop piracy. However because Apple says its a digital encryption intended to protect copyright then they now are protected by government law and can now control what software, what operating systems, what media devices, you are allowed to listen to music you purchase from them.Basicly they are using DRM to make return customers of Ipods.Same thing with the HDCP from Intel and friends.HDCP is 'high definition copyright protection'. It is a encryption sceme for hardware they claim intended to 'protect' High definition content from being copied. HDCP, however, seemed to be a rather weak encryption method and was cracked years ago. So it accomplishes absolutely nothing in preventing real piracy. Remember once you get one or two copies of unencrypted data on the internet it's easily aviable to millions and millions of users. For people with high speed internet it's easier and quicker to steal ex-drm'd content off the internet then it is to go down to the store and buy a new dvd.However what it effectively does is this. That when you go out and in the near future by a High-Def or Blueray DVD it will probably have HDCP protections.In order to legally play it back you will be required to purchase a special DVD player (no suprises), purchase a motherboard with a 'encrypted media path', purchase Vista 64bit (32bit won't work), purchase a new video card that support the protected media path, and purchase a new video monitor that supports HDCP.Even though in other countries you can buy devices to circumvent this and allow older hardwar to work, in the United States it is illegal to produce or distribute or buy or use those devices because they could possibly be used to circumvent the 'protections' and allow 'piracy'.OR if you want to use a HD dvd, if you got one now it probably won't work with HDCP protected content. You'll have to buy a new one.It won't work with any HD television you may own right now either.. You'll have to by a new one.It's a huge freaking scam. Over and over and over again any time you see 'DRM' it turns out to be almost exactly like the above.HOWEVER NOTHING IN THE GPLv3 does anything about that. Nothing at all.As far as Dinsey and 'Americanism' goes.. Disney sucks. I am proud to be American and am pretty freaking conservative. It's just a snow job that they are for family values and such nowadays. That was over in the 60's. The Disney corporation owns many many major music recording, television, and movie studios. A lot of it produces the most vile anti-american, anti-family, BS you ever heard. And they'll happily do it as long as it sells and it doesn't get associated with the Disney name. It's not that they are anti-anything, they are just very pro-money. They do what sells. Now I am pro-money, pro-profit, pro-capitolism and all that, but I like to think that I am somewhat moral about it how I go about it. Similar in spirit? Posted Oct 5, 2006 6:08 UTC (Thu) by drag (guest, #31333) [Link] 2ff7e9595c
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